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kilhallon
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LBS, 

I get this feeling that you are consciously avoiding the inevitable, but admit it is happening unconsciously. Perhaps you just naturally disagree with anything stated on this site!!

beginning? or perhaps the end. Your comment I believe!!

You agreed a few weeks back that it was the worst you had seen. The rates paid without argument have halved in the past few years. So how long are they to go down before there are no foreign takers??

Hourly rates now down to half of what they were, and still going down. Soon they will level out at the rate that the long term resident "whitey" will not work for.  

Market rate.

Then in step the individuals that WILL work for these rates. Against local hourly rates, what is on offer is good even against shipyard rates for Koreans. 

Sorry my friend, the good days are gone for routine teaching jobs. 

The same situation applies to me. You want to stay in a good paying teaching job, specialize, find your niche market. They are there, you just need to identify them.

Angel
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To pretend you really know anything about this, is laughable. None of you, seem to really grasp the point of these programmes.They will end these, when they want to. The main Ethos is not restricted by the question of money, qualifications, or skin colour.These paranoia merchants should take a few Prozacs, or something else.In my opinion, you have missed the point. 

I think, the function of this expenditure, is to remove barriers. It's about giving their children the opportunity,a chance to feel confident with foreigners, and remove the social barriers of old. Exposure to English is the main idea, an focuses mainly in the elementary schools. 

This programme wont go on forever, will end quite soon I suspect(2 years). LBS should be safe in his University job for a while, I think Hakwons will  loving the fact they will be able to make money again when foreigners need jobs again.I think Westerners will be phased out here and there, but only in areas where Koreans are happy to have Korean teachers.

Personally, I think you are all being rude and derogatory to the fine army of Korean teachers out there. Some of the people here, couldn't lace their boots.They are your main threat, not other Asians.

kilhallon
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Angel,

I find your comments equally laughable, as will everyone else you have insulted. 

""To pretend you really know anything about this, is laughable""

So ONLY YOU have grasped the finer points of the exercise. How so very observant and intuitive you are.

Have you ever considered a career in the United Nations???

Of course ALL the comments here are personal opinions, including yours, unless you are privy to some insider information that no one else has access to.

Feel free to put forward your opinion, but try doing it in a way that doesn't require insulting other individuals that are also entitled to have their own opinions, and more importantly, airing them in public.

Perhaps then, others will look at the CONTENT of your arguments, rather than the STYLE in which you write them.  

However, saying that, I couldn't agree more with your last paragraph. Without a doubt, a large amount of their downfall is self induced, and they are their own biggest enemies.  

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Hal I wouldn't presume to tell you anything about the shipbuilding industry. I wish you would give us the same courtesy. Angel and I have had words in the past but I respect this person's position because he/she is in the industry and not an outsider.

I really think you are out of your league here as you have little to no personal knowledge about the EFL industry in Korea. As for myself, it is all I know. I have never done anything else in my adult life than teach English in Korea. Some of you might think that is really sad, well it is what it is. My knowledge in this industry isn't solely as a teacher who has taught every age and level in the spectrum. I've helped recruit people here and my better half owns and runs an institute. There isn't an aspect of this industry that I don't have some experience in.

You say I'm not in tune with modern times and it's inevitable these people will come. I'm telling you I know this industry and I know Koreans, especially Korean mothers. I'll bet my 15years here that little to nothing in the EFL industry will change. Let's talk in 2015, it will be my 20th anniversary here and the 20th year of me hearing how the Asians are coming to take our jobs away. It will never happen.

  

kilhallon
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Hey, what's this, Education Industry closing ranks against the unbelievers??

Seriously, I have been around these parts for a few years also. I have friends in Busan who are / were teachers, one tried to start a summer school, failed dismally, etc, so, not entirely lacking in the background to the industry.

I would never consider myself knowledgeable enough to go up against anyone in "the know", but you would be very surprised how much one becomes a little blinkered as to what is going on around them when they are inside looking out.

You don't need to be here for a long period of time, nor an insider, to see the trends though, nor the changing attitudes of all concerned.

As you say, the only proof will be time. 









Angel
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I noticed you boasting about your huge salary, perhaps you'll be gone before any of us.What are you a Log, or something like that? Some of us here, are highly qualified and skilled people. My background is in Education, so I know what I am talking about. I do have reasonable contacts in the Government, so yes, I do have some idea.I don't think it takes a rocket scientist to make the predictions you have.However, the industry here is somewhat different to others in its criteria and needs.Some of us, have backgrounds in Economics, Politics, Law, Business and other skilled majors.It seems to me you are preaching to the converted in the main.Yet, some of us with a modicum of intelligence, don't buy into the negativity. Hope that is OK with you.
kilhallon
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My comment reference my salary came as a response to LBS comment on expenses. Read the thread. Not a boast, but an embarrassment. Maybe I should give some of it to impoverished teachers.

Can't answer the comment reference the Log, assume that this is some sort of "insider teacher to student thing" 

I will be gone when they; 

a/ Stop building ships.

b/ Find someone else to replace me that has the same educational qualifications, the same skills and cheaper than me.

c/ Die.

Yes Angel, there are other people out in this big wild world that have the same qualifications as you (probably higher than yours) and skills (most certainly higher than yours) and from the same quality Universities as you ( I assume this of you as a matter of course) 

My interactions also go slightly higher than yours, where, due to my background I advise steering Committees on International Laws concerning Marine matters. 

So cut the crap about you mixing in local government. It does not impress me.

I am honoured to note that I have been "touched"  by such exalted, highly qualified and skilled people, with backgrounds in Economics, Politics, Law, Business.

This is indeed a guarantee that the changing and progressive movement towards a multi cultural balance shift within South Korea will not now take place!!! 

I believe the last time I heard this was our good friend King Canute. He was also extremely successful.

I have no intention of getting into an argument concerning how the education system works internally, that would be pure arrogance on my part. I refer only to the Industry as a whole. 

As you say, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to look at the track record of 1/ employment, 2/ salaries, 3/ negative comments (reference items 1 and 2) from the same individuals who claim that there is no negative movement in your Industry as a whole, and every thing is rosy in the garden. 

If you require some proof of this, read back on innumerable threads going back over the past couple of years, where the massive number of negative comments from your own Educational compatriots has more than emphasised the general trend.

I note that those of you "with a modicum of intelligence, don't buy into the negativity"

Glad to note that you do not consider me to have a modicum of intelligence, not that I would expect much else from you and your threads, but thanks anyhow.

My previous comments reference the contents of your threads still being a tad more important than the insults, still stands. 

Hope that is OK with you also.       


Angel
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My interactions also go slightly higher than yours, where, due to my background I advise steering Committees on International Laws concerning Marine matters. - wow, give the m--key a peanut

Yes Angel, there are other people out in this big wild world that have the same qualifications as you (probably higher than yours) and skills (most certainly higher than yours) and from the same quality Universities as you ( I assume this of you as a matter of course) - yet again, stating the obvious

If you require some proof of this, read back on innumerable threads going back over the past couple of years, where the massive number of negative comments from your own Educational compatriots has more than emphasised the general trend.-

I have no idea what numerous threads, about trends you are claiming were on here:- absolute  twaddle, nonsense.What trends, where?There aren't any general trends anywhere,this statement is vague, nebulous at best- horse man --- to be honest.Where is your proof?


Returning to the main point: 

There will always be Westerners teaching here. If not, they will move to China, Taiwan, Vietnam, etc.For a small minority of us, it's a good career here. For the transient other, it's just an earner.For the main, people will move on, have to, or be moved on.Most of us, are aware of this fact, we don't need people to teach us, to suck eggs.Perhaps we impoverished teachers, could help you with your reading skills.You seem to be blinkered,and see only what suits your mind set.Lastly, your salary was mentioned again, and contact dropping now.Don't feel sorry for us teachers, Professors.I can assure you that we can afford a beer,or two.In fairness, you weigh in with your fair share of insults. Why don't you stick to the Steering, and let the experts get on with our sector.Shipping industries in places like the UK, Spain and former USSR are dead. I guess you must be glad of a job. Perhaps, they will have a job for you in West Africa, under a flag of convenience , when you are finished here.Ships are quite slow, what about the people in the industry?The Marine Industry, or is Maritime?


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I know some Fillipinos who live and work in Korea. Their English is good enough to carry on a conversation with me fluently. I know some native speakers who I constantly have to ask them to slow down or repeat themselves. We have the best and worst of both worlds here in Korea. Having said that, I will explain very clearly what native speakers have that cannot necessarily be taught in a classroom. We have the gift of English conversation. That includes idioms and slang as well. The Korean government hires us, as native speakers, to teach the conversation side of English. The Koreans and Fillipinos or any other ESL citizen can teach the phonics and grammar part. To truly be able to understand how conversation works in a country you have to listen and observe someone from that country and copy what they do or say. The government is bringing in people from other countries to teach? Maybe they are beginning to realize that just having conversation skills is not enough anymore. You can not control how the government works or what it chooses to do. I don't understand why people are so concerned with this. You have a stable job right now, with a decent salary--much higher that you would get in your own country for teaching. Why are you complaining about the fact that the Korean government is bringing on more teachers from another country? I just don't understand. Maybe I'm too 'babo' or something, but I'm happy having a job, a salary, a place to live and money to pay for little things like Starbucks.
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Just to expand a few comments from your previous threads.

Don't feel sorry for us teachers, Professors . So now we have the arrogance to differentiate yourself from the rank and file within the Industry. Perhaps this is your way within education. 

Teacher / professor, whatever, you still perform the same function, you teach.

Why don't you stick to the  Steering. 

Definition of steering is to alter the course, to control the direction. Yes I have every intention of continuing to do so. Surprisingly enough, and most certainly a disappointment to you, I have no connection to a Flag Administration, but with I.M.O. ( U.N.) 

So, yet another bit of name dropping. Another peanut perhaps? Soon have a bag full. 

Just defining the ground here, justify my existence?

I am getting on in years, no worries on the job score, no need to move to Africa thanks, too bloody hot there. You mention Spain as a major ship building industry, you obviously know something the rest of the world does not. Just to bring you up to speed on a topic you obviously know very little about, but make comments on, Korea has recently gone into partnership with "former USSR" to resurrect ship building. Purely political, but an industry all the same. 

As you so correctly point out, this discussion has deviated somewhat from the original thread.

For a small minority of us, it's a good career here.

I find this comment quite illuminating, as we are no longer discussing the same concept now. There is an immense difference between the upper levels of your Industry and the rank and file workers. I accept your comment as obvious, and does not require comment. 

However, this thread does not discuss that. It concentrates on the lower end of the market place, where basic teaching positions are being eroded, both in conditions and salary. 

The general discussion was whether Asians would replace foreigners, in general, not at your level. My argument was yes they will, and still remains the same. This does not require in depth knowledge of your industry, it requires the ability to read. 

No, I have no requirements from your industry to teach me that thanks. I would suggest however, that you research a little more and get a better understanding of the rank and file within the education industry. 

I spent an hour earlier, and counted over 50 negative comments on this site reference declining conditions, made in the last 2 months. If you are incapable of discovering these yourself, perhaps someone with a little more research ability may be able to assist you.

I would offer, but too busy making money for my enforced retirement in some West African country.

I will apologise to anyone that I have offended, you included, if my thread is insulting, this is not normally my way, but I DO respond with like for like.  

kilhallon
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rebeccalozen,

Thank you for getting us all back on track of the original thread.

My own little added bit would be that originally, the important interactions between Korea and the rest of the world used to be principally America, and secondary Europe. So your observation concerning idioms and slang were important.

Korea now looks for trade world wide, with very high value exports i.e. nuclear power stations (UAE) desalination plants (Saudi Arabia) construction (UAE) shipbuilding (Brazil, China and Russia) which no longer require anything but good basic English, so your summation could well be spot on. 

But Starbucks??



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Ship building- Ever heard of Cadiz?

Returning to the topic- I wonder who made those 50 negative comments, and in what is their situational context ?For example- Are they people who live here, do they just exist here, or are they cash transients?I think you are correct, in the assumption that Asians will take over,and these will be Koreans.I will repeat, that as long as there is a market, Westerners will have jobs. That's if they want them(Koreans and Westerners).

Conditions- Whether conditions will be the same,get worse or better, is debatable.It is up to the Ministry of Education, and market at large here to determine this, not me.Presently, the short fall in part time ( arabite) jobs are being filled by F4 visas, F type visas via marriage, and some illegal students.To be honest, and with all due respect to you,I debate whether Korea will ever be looking to employ Asians from other countries, en masse. This, especially when the gaps can be filled by F Visa types from the within.

Research- Actually, if you had done some detailed research into the industry; read the journals; blogs;papers here;you will find that money isn't the issue.I think Korea has made its choice, structured its programme to foster confidence.Koreans can teach Grammar, why do they need us? The average Korean, has a far better grasp of it, than many people I know.Pieceofmeat put it well years ago, when he wrote that it was an immersion programme. The marinading, immersion must be almost at an end, let's watch the resurgence of the Hakwon business. 

Up to the Individual- conditions have and will always be slightly ropey  here, but that's up to the individual.People come here without proper research, and get caught out.You get what you get. People often blame owners for their own short comings, lack of talent or pure stupidity.Let's give the people here some credit, they take us on without knowing much about us.The gamble is two way street, how many midnight runs, incomplete contacts, bad behaviour have they seen?This is a free market and people get burnt on both sides.At least Greg at ATEK, is trying to protect the rights of the individual.If people want to work for any condition and provide the service, it's a personal choice.

Condescending of other Asian nations-The truth is that Philippines, Indians, Malays are all well educated and excellent teachers. However, it seems that Korean parents in the main, refuse to accept them. How will the market stand them? Especially, if Parents don't want these excellent teachers in their schools.The market has been in place for years,and demand for foreigner from Western countries is still very strong. Why do Koreans send their children to camps in the Philippines?People are also assuming that other Asians will work here, for less than us.I thought incomes were going up in these nations recently, eg the Indian professional and middle classes.Why would they come here? To commit to a programme, that will end soon enough.

The Future- I would say, they are more likely to invest in Chinese teachers, as they are doing right now. Many schools have fostered University partnerships, where Chinese exchange teachers are coming over here, to teach, for a year.Thus, in essence, perhaps you may be right, if we look at just teaching.

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Angel, thank you for your detailed response, probably more due to the weather than me, but still appreciated.

It is exceptionally intriguing for me to have the opportunity of an insight into the education system here in Korea, especially at both your level and with your length of time in Korea, as most of my knowledge comes from much further down the feed chain.

Also, I have been described as a "country boy" coming from Koje, not a "city boy" (quote from a Korean) so not really up to speed on the intricacies of higher education.   

I believe that most, if not all of the comments concerning lowering conditions / salary etc. do come from the rank and file, who have possibly been primed by the old timers. There is nothing worse than us old timers claiming that things were so much better in our days. Regretfully, we tend to conveniently "forget" the painful bits!! 

I totally endorse your comments reference the skills and abilities of other Asian nations, yes their abilities and grammatical knowledge are quite astounding. What does intrigue me is the reluctance of Korean parents to accept these nations as an acceptable alternative to white foreigners.  

Following the recent discussions on the topic of homosexuality being discussed in schools, I have asked many of my Korean friends (who are also parents) whether the new generation of Koreans were prepared to discuss this with their children, and all agreed that the topic was considered to be acceptable in this day and age. However, none of the same parents would have considered this as possible with THEIR parents. 

A reoccurring theme throughout these discussions, was the immense change of direction that the modern Korean now accepts. The old concepts, standards and beliefs seem to be changing so rapidly, and I also wonder whether the rejection of the differing nationality of teachers will moderate within the same time scale. 

It is a topic that I will bring up as a general discussion point in the near future.   

You surprise me with the Chinese concept of alternative teachers. I always believed that the working structure between Hangol and say for instance, Manderin, was so diametrically opposite, that this would have been a serious impediment, not only for vocabulary but pronunciation. 

Having worked in China for a few years, I still have difficulty in understanding the spoken word. 

The structure of the Korean education system remains a mystery to me, and I would never make a comment on this, nor would I venture an opinion on the way the Government wishes to move forward. As previously commented, I refer only to the basic "rank and file" end of the industry.

As for Cadiz being classed as a ship building centre, now or in the past, someone has been winding you up!! 

Ship building yes, but certainly not world class.

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Thought I'd chime in on a point or two.

In regards to the homosexuality chat, the parents you talk to Hal are telling you what you want to hear. They have you as a foreign friend and they want to be new and hip and western and I guess gay is ok this year. I have nothing against gays or lesbians by the way but it should not be in any way shape or form included in an English lesson taught by a foreigner to children or even young adults.

Note: to those of you who say you have taught about homosexuality in the classroom to young adults or children then please record your video and post it on this site.I'm really sick of people saying that have when I know they haven't. Prove it, or be silent! Come on you do the same lesson at least 3-6-9 times a week. Show me the lesson!!!  I said you'd be fired in a week, prove me wrong.  

Oh Hal.....did you know that Koreans let their children run around in restaurants because they think it's 'very western'?  If I acted like an animal my mother would have blistered my ass.  You should see what they've done to the beautiful game of golf. It's more stressful to play here than driving a car, I'm not lying.  

Why do Koreans send kids to the Phillippines?  It's cheaper. Who would send there kids there if they had the money to go to the USA or Canada or Europe? It's the money or lack of it. People with money wouldn't concider this place, sending your kids abroad is a status thing. Unless they were university student looking for a good time and hanging out on the beach. No studying required. I certainly wouldn't be studying in Boracay.    

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I worked in a Korean Academy and for dealing with them for about 9months i already understand their nature. Well, its not necessary to unfold these matters but then lets just trust with our fellowmen. Ideally, they are far different from us esp. when it comes to relationships such as being friends. I've been aware with their hidden and visible personalities but then i was able to meet few genuine koreans. 


Anyway guys, as a teacher i could tell you so that Filipinos are really great when it comes to teaching. I worked with other nationalities and they always have this common positive feedback on "US".  Regardless of these issues about the discrimination, i still have a faith on our god given talents and skills.


Recently, im planning to travel and if fortunate i wanna work in Korea. However, i often heard bout these stuffs and it makes me wanna think twice.  Hopefully, we could  have good opportunities in this country... in the near future. good luck to us!

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Can anyone spot the irony here?
Paul Gaasenbeek
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this thread is from last summer.  some just never die.
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There a lot of Korean students go to the Philippines to study English. Some of them stayed there for 5 or 6 years and when they come back to Korea they are very proud that they can speak English better than other Koreans. And when you ask them where did they study or how did they learn  English they would say that they studied English in Canada or America. Hmmmm ( I knew some koreans doing this) It is clearly discrimination.

One thing more in our previous Academy. There was 1 American, 1  South African, 1 Australian and 2 Filipino teachers. Sorry to say but there are a lot of parents complained against them because they only read books in the class.Thy don`t even know how to explain the book ( yes, I was in their class). The boss, korean teachers and students love the Filipino teachers because they are creative, smart, sweet and above all they have good classroom management. The result is the boss asked them to stay in her academy for 4 years. They are still there now. What I`m trying to say is not all Filipinos speak bad English. Because I know that not all Filipinos who are teaching in Korea are teachers too. Why not hired a real Filino English teachers?

Some Koreans like native English speakers and maybe because they are white but  some of them are not really teachers. Only it`s easy for them to teach in Korea because  they are  native speakers but some of them don`t even know how to teach.

No offends to you guys.. Of course  not all of you but some of you.

 

 

Dogarse
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"not all Filipinos speak bad English"

But not all Koreans speak bad English either, why not hire them?

Angel
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Your post says it all!!!!!!!!You mist heve hid a great Filipinho titcher. thit's why you spellin so gut. Bravo, money well spent. No offends!Koreans spending 5 or 6 years, funny. Where do these 5/6 year students fit in Uni or military service? Dream on , you dream on. You keep hopping and it mite heppen somedey. I think the real teachers from your country are good, diligent and really talented. Sadly, it's hilarious that you are masquerading as a product of one of them.

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The fact of the matter is....I've never met anyone from the Philippines that sounded like their native tongue was English.  It has nothing to do with troops or economy or politics.  It has to do with the Ministry of Education wanting those of expertise to teach the students.  Korean English teachers usually teach such things as grammar and test related curriculum in which having the ability to explain to the students the context would be required for optimal instruction.  As for native English teachers, conversation and pronounciation are their field of expertise in the classroom. 

I don't think there's a ban on Philippino teachers or anything.  If you have the ability and the proper visa, you can get a job teaching.  It's all about  how qualified you are.  If you speak fluent English (but there's no way you sound like a native), have a four year degree and an F2 or a proper working visa, I'm almost certain you'd be able to find a job teaching somewhere.

Now, if you're saying that Philippinos be able to obtain E2 visas and the same positions as native speakers, absolutely not.  Why?  Because English is not your first language.  It isn't a racial thing.  I worked with a Phillipine-American who had an E2...but again...she was a native speaker.

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"Senator Roxas remember the Philippines was the only Asian country to send troops to defend South Korea during the Korean War."

Thailand was here too!

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Well, for me I don`t care. It`s nice to learn English with different accents from different English teachers. That would be fun.

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http://ph.news.yahoo.com/ph--world-s-best-country-in-business-english.html

 

PH: World's best country in business English

Well, people will now have to think twice before mocking Pinoys' use of the English language.
 
The Philippines was named the world’s best country in business English proficiency, even beating the United States, according to a recent study by GlobalEnglish Corporation.
 
GlobalEnglish has released early this month the results of its annual Business English Index (BEI), the only index that measures business English proficiency in the workplace.
 
For 2012, results showed that from 76 represented countries worldwide, only the Philippines attained a score above 7.0, "a BEI level within range of a high proficiency that indicates an ability to take an active role in business discussions and perform relatively complex tasks."
 
“This is particularly interesting because the Philippines, a country with one-tenth of the population of India, recently overtook India as a hub for call centers. Over 400,000 Filipinos are now employed in call centers, roughly 50,000 more than in India,” the study said.
 
The Philippines, which scored 7.11 and the lone country in the intermediate level, were joined by Norway (6.54), Estonia (6.45), Serbia (6.38) and Slovenia (6.19) in the top five.
 
GlobalEnglish noted that a country’s business English capability is an indicator of its economic growth and business success.
 
“It is not surprising that both the Philippines and Norway—the only two countries in the top five in both 2011 and 2012—are improving their economies, based on the latest GDP data from the World Bank,” it added.
 
Meanwhile, struggling economic powers (Japan, Italy and Mexico) and fast-growth emerging markets (Brazil, Columbia and Chile) scored below a 4.0 in business English proficiency, placing them at a disadvantage when competing in a global marketplace, the study said.
 
It also pointed out that shifts in global talent have put even English-speaking countries at risk. 
 
“Surprisingly the BEI score for global workers in the U.S. declined from 6.9 to 5.09 since the original 2011 BEI benchmark, which is attributed to a majority of test takers being foreign-born engineers and scientists,” the report said.
 
Rest of the world ranked beginner and basic level

Based on a scale of 1-10, the average 2012 BEI score across 108,000 test takers around the world is 4.15 which is lower than last year’s 4.46. 
 
Nearly four out of 10 (38.2 percent) global workers from 76 countries were ranked as business English beginners, meaning that, on average, they can’t understand or communicate basic information during virtual or in-person meetings, read or write professional emails in English or deal with complexity and rapid change in a global business environment, the study said.
 
Meanwhile, the majority of global workers (60.5 percent) from the represented countries scored between a 4.0 and 7.0, below an intermediate level, indicating an inability to take an active role in business discussions or perform relatively complex tasks such as presentation development and customer or partner negotiations, it added.
 
GlobalEnglish stressed that the 2012 BEI which showed a lack of business English proficiency is threatening the productivity of companies, industries and country-specific economies this year.
 
“Poor Business English skills are bad for global businesses and this year’s Business English Index suggests that many companies will be hard-pressed to achieve their desired performance goals during 2012,” said Tom Kahl, GlobalEnglish President. 
 
“Addressing English skills gaps and ensuring that employees can immediately perform at the necessary proficiency level should be viewed as a strategic imperative for multinational businesses, as Enterprise Fluency, the ability to seamlessly communicate and collaborate within global organizations, can deliver significant financial upside,” Kahl added.
 
Headquartered in Brisbane, California, GlobalEnglish works with multinational companies – including Cisco, Procter and Gamble, HSBC, Phzer – to support performance in business English across the workforce around the world.

Here's the list of the 10 best and worst countries in the world for business English proficiency based on GlobalEnglish's 2012 BEI:

10 Best Countries:
Philippines
Norway
Serbia
Slovenia
Australia
Malaysia
India
Lithuania
Singapore
Canada

10 Worst Countries:
Armenia
Cote d'Ivoire
Taiwan
Honduras
Columbia
Chile
El Salvador
Saudi Arabia
Israel
Brazil

 

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