09:30:55  chosunbimbo ->  On HIV - what do you say to Schools who still require mandatory HIV testing in spite of changes at the ministry of justice and confusion between them and Immigrtion?

09:32:19  Jeff ->  hello CB

09:32:29  Jeff ->  will get that question in

09:33:43  chosunbimbo ->  2nd question - didn't the new pres stand unopposed? 

09:37:27  chosunbimbo ->  Chris is a cylon

09:39:21  chosunbimbo ->  IS that true?

09:39:29  Jeff ->  yep

09:39:44  chosunbimbo ->  Pension is mandatory for all full time workers in Korea, regardless of job

09:40:16  chosunbimbo ->  Also most of the K-Hakwon teachers I know are members of one of the two Teacher's unions anyway

09:41:16  chosunbimbo ->  Not a hakwon union - the two main teacher's unions

09:41:27  Jeff ->  right, for public schools

09:41:40  chosunbimbo ->  Yeah - but Hakwon teachers can join

09:41:58  Jeff ->  I don't think most do

09:42:27  chosunbimbo ->  that might be the case but I know 4 or 5 who are members of a union

09:42:49  chosunbimbo ->  What about Foreigners joining the established unions?

09:43:11  chosunbimbo ->  From what I have seen those groups don't stand for no S**t! Heehee

09:43:23  roboseyo ->  maybe that's one of the reasons English public school teachers are labeled "assistant" teachers - so they couldn't join established unions

09:52:38  roboseyo ->  heckle, huh?

09:55:48  chosunbimbo ->  I have a question: What are you going to do to DEFEND the good name of English teachers the next time there is a TV program that erroniously paints Foreigners as mad weirdo pedophioles and Immigration and the Minisry of Justice rewrite the immigration rules YET AGAIN in a kneejerk reacdtion?

09:56:04  chosunbimbo ->  *reaction

09:57:39  roboseyo ->  yeah I hate when that happens.

09:58:47  chosunbimbo ->  What is your position on Anti-English Spectrum?

10:26:46  roboseyo ->  hi caveman

10:27:08  caveman ->  hey roboseyo

10:27:19  caveman ->  I figure I missed most of it, but thought I would check in

10:35:35  roboseyo ->  :) hope it's been worthwhile for you.

10:36:06  caveman ->  I have always been interested but skeptical, so the more information I have the better really

10:36:11  caveman ->  sorry I missed the show

10:36:24  caveman ->  but congrats on your nuptials, best choice I ever made! ;-)

10:48:49  roboseyo ->  thanks, caveman.

10:49:59  caveman ->  looking forward to learning more ab out ATEK

10:53:00  roboseyo ->  got any questions in specific?

10:53:39  caveman ->  no, not at the moment, I am one of those long-time probably lifers

10:53:51  caveman ->  so have lots of questions, but nothing apropos for right now

10:55:26  caveman ->  haha, I remember that part of my contract too Jeff!

10:56:50  roboseyo ->  one of the problems with those contracts is that some of those laws have changed, while the contracts continue to be cut-and-pasted from the original in 1994 or something

10:58:03  caveman ->  yeah I know, but I have very little problem with that actually, it was more funny than anything

11:00:42  caveman ->  my one concern is there seems to be a disconnect between the fact that we think we are equal as far as teaching goes with the Korean teacher. We are not the same, but quite different really. It doesn't mean we should be shoved aside, but it is hard to argue for equality

11:04:15  caveman ->  anyways, to be discussed at a later date I hope. Cheers