following the 2010 KOTESOL National Candidates Discussion
October 3, 2010
Onsite Voting at the International Conference Oct. 16~17
More information about elections & candidates at: http://kotesol.org/?q=elections
08:20:39 saradavila -> Argh...skype is not working for me...
08:20:54 saradavila -> will try to get it going...
08:21:48 Stoakley -> teehee...this site uses Drupal...ZeroPoint Theme
08:22:11 Stoakley -> and has Suckerfish enabled
08:22:41 saradavila -> working on it.
08:23:15 saradavila -> Jeff, can you send me a skype request.
08:24:10 saradavila -> Hi, jeff I think I just sent you a request can you skype me.
08:25:05 jmart -> What is a ustream?
08:25:32 dhuffer -> the streaming audio
08:25:32 jmart -> I don't think I have skype on this computer.
08:25:46 jmart -> oh, like turn off your radio before calling in.
08:25:54 dhuffer -> yup
08:26:13 Stoakley -> We will be recording sessions.
08:26:34 Stoakley -> I will be putting it up on our official website.
08:26:36 jmart -> oops I think we have two Jeffs here.
08:26:53 Stoakley -> I am remaking the website right now.
08:27:01 Stoakley -> I am.
08:27:12 Stoakley -> Skype address?
08:27:28 jl -> koreabridge
08:27:37 Stoakley -> nope
08:36:29 dhuffer -> that's what peader said
08:39:22 Stoakley -> Yes, this is true about Korean teachers, but "easy" ways about it.
08:42:14 Stoakley -> Competence for image?
08:42:54 jmart -> I don't know everyones voices so I don't know who is talking.
08:43:26 Stoakley -> Aaron Jolly
08:43:32 Stoakley -> Peader
08:43:43 MattinDaegu -> in encouraging more people of one particular group to be in leadership positions
08:44:00 MattinDaegu -> not to say that Koreans would not be competent
08:44:47 MattinDaegu -> I agree with what Peadar said that it should be 'everyone' as opposed to focusing membship drives
08:45:38 Stoakley -> smooth
08:45:49 Stoakley -> lol
08:45:53 jmart -> We should have presentations in Korean for Korean teachers.
08:46:45 MattinDaegu -> why not in French for teachers from Quebec? Or Afrikaans for South Africans?
08:46:55 jmart -> Not all Korean schools have the same schedule.
08:47:22 Stoakley -> The Daejeon-ChungCheong Chapter SPECIFICALLY changed meetings to cater to K-teachers
08:47:30 jmart -> MattinDaegu: We are in Korea and most people are working with Koreans.
08:47:45 MattinDaegu -> true, but we are all teaching English
08:48:09 MattinDaegu -> and this brings up the issue of competence
08:50:29 jmart -> Accademic language fluency is not the same as conversational fluency and you have to meet people where they are. I did meet a teacher who used a lot of strategies to make up for his lack of fluency. Teaching about teaching would be something to present in Korean for Korean teachers.
08:51:03 Stoakley -> Minutes are available.
08:51:20 jmart -> What about competent administrators who want to improve English teaching in their schools, but don't speak English themselves?
08:52:01 dhuffer -> Good points jmart
08:52:27 dhuffer -> BT's fault!
08:52:32 MattinDaegu -> that's a great idea, I agree heartily...but I wonder if it would take away from resources available...I personally have no problem with Korean sessions being offered
08:52:37 dhuffer -> ok, never mind
08:52:52 MattinDaegu -> I just wonder if it would create additional bloqs to be concerned with
08:53:24 jmart -> I don't speak Korean so it would be up to our Korean speakers to offer presentations and workshops for Koreans.
08:53:45 dhuffer -> the budget?
08:54:01 MattinDaegu -> which, as has been mentioned, is an issue given how few Korean members we have at the moment
08:54:29 MattinDaegu -> would every conference be capable of offering such programs?
08:55:41 MattinDaegu -> I know for the Daegu chapter there are only a few regular Korean members, and while they are great and would be able to run such a program, does every chapter have such availability and would making them a national issue risk alienating Korean members in chapters where such a program is not available?
08:56:21 dhuffer -> I don't think we need Korean presentations at every conference. A SIG would be a good start for Koreans to communicate and be involved
08:56:35 MattinDaegu -> fair enough
08:57:53 dhuffer -> why don't we use interns?
08:58:02 MattinDaegu -> grad students
08:58:28 dhuffer -> yes, or even compsci undergrads. resume foder for them
08:59:10 MattinDaegu -> so that would be an HR issue
08:59:39 dhuffer -> BT - will the new site look a little more contemporary?
09:00:31 MattinDaegu -> I'm sure that it would be quite easy to find a grad student willing to pad their CV with a volunteer position
09:00:41 MattinDaegu -> and a highly competent one at that
09:00:49 dhuffer -> no class tomorrow :D
09:01:46 dhuffer -> and with an English speaking org. that's a good ref for someone
09:01:52 MattinDaegu -> exactly
09:03:39 dhuffer -> what budget??
09:03:43 MattinDaegu -> national
09:03:51 dhuffer -> of course
09:03:55 MattinDaegu -> lol
09:04:02 MattinDaegu -> uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
09:04:05 MattinDaegu -> what???
09:04:11 MattinDaegu -> why NOT!?!?
09:04:23 dhuffer -> so everyone has to ask Deborah individually?
09:04:32 dhuffer -> thank you sara
09:04:37 MattinDaegu -> indeed!!
09:05:05 MattinDaegu -> don't overload Deborah, put it up!!!
09:05:37 jl -> this is aaron
09:06:31 Stoakley -> we see email
09:07:14 Stoakley -> recalled
09:07:36 Stoakley -> hear hear
09:07:52 MattinDaegu -> it's been fantastically useful!
09:09:05 Stoakley -> And vote for me!
09:09:17 Stoakley -> oh, wait....i ain't runnin'
09:10:00 dhuffer -> we'll write you in
09:12:48 Stoakley -> Thanks, gents, for hosting this!
09:12:52 Stoakley -> !shoosh
09:12:57 dhuffer -> cheers!
09:13:13 Stoakley -> und, go Drupal!
09:13:36 dhuffer -> COBOL!!